Wednesday, February 22, 2012

The Black Boy Peach - a Kiwi thing


 Black boy peaches ripening in the Eco Garden

In a week or two the peaches on my self-sown blackboy peach trees will be ready to eat raw – and to start turning into pies, tarts, chutney, sauce, icecream... My big and bonny trees grew from stones that survived the composting process. It was clear from their leaves when they were small that they would turn into peach trees, and I let them grow on where they had planted themselves to see whether they would be a tasty variety (most peaches do not come true from seed). Both of them turned out to be blackboy peaches. Within three years of self-sowing they had already started to flower and fruit, and now they are both at least 4 metres tall and have heavy crops. Unlike my white and yellow-fleshed peach trees from the garden centre they don't get leaf curl or other serious diseases, and all in all I can't think of a more trouble-free and productive fruit tree.

It is also, as I discovered when trying to find out more about this wonder tree, rather a mystery. The name Black Boy Peach (hereafter BBP) seems to be a totally New Zealand thing, and New Zealand also seems to be the current world capital of the tree/fruit itself. I found various claims on line that the BBP is really the Peche de Vigne (vineyard peach) of France, but the French language Wikipedia entry on peaches says that such peaches are not exclusively dark-red, like the BBP, but rather have been so named because they ripen at the same time as grapes and are planted (or self-sow) around vineyards where they act as an indicator for pest and diseases that might harm the vines, especially mildew. This information is seconded, in English, by Colin Elliot, an English gardener in France, who says that a red-fleshed form of a peche de vigne has been commercialised in Soucieu-en-Jarrest, self-styled Capital of Peche de Vigne, south-west of Lyon.

I would dearly love to know if this is anything like the BBP we grow in New Zealand. Almost everything else about the BBP that I can find on on-line is contradictory (it will/will not grow true from seed; it is/is not good to eat fresh; it is/is not better cooked; it is/is not disease free). All I can say about about my own experience of growing and eating the BBP in Banks Peninsula conditions is that it does appear to come true from seed, that it doesn't get the diseases my other peach trees do, that it is delicious fresh if you pick it when perfectly ripe, and that you can cook it in lots of tasty ways. (Such as Roasted Blackboy PeachChutney and Vegan Black Boy Peach Cake.)

38 comments:

  1. thanks for this info, i didnt know it was a kiwi thing! it had inspired me to try to raise some from seed as i only have one tree and would love more.
    how will i know when my peaches are ripe, and will they continue to ripen after it is picked?
    Natalie

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    1. Hi Natalie,
      the peaches are ripe when they have a slight 'give' when you feel them on the tree, and come off easily when you give them a little twist. Usually when the first ripe ones start falling from the tree it is safe to pick the rest. They will (like all peaches) get softer and a bit juicier if picked when still firm and kept in a warm room, but they won't get any sweeter.
      Enjoy!
      Christine

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  2. Hi Christine, we inherited a BBP when we bought our property near Greytown. I find it delicious when fresh and ripened on the tree. It's prolific but ripens all at once.
    The BBP does seem immune to pests (other than birds) and does not get the curly leaf that decimates my peacherine and nectarine. BBP also does well despite the dry spells we get so often. It keeps well in the fridge too.
    I have made jam, sauce and chutney but I'm not pleased with them. It is a bit too juicy (watery) and not sour like plums, and the flavour is a bit strong. I made wine last year and it's a bit odd. Nice but odd. The BBP liqueur was better. I've just put a lot through the juicer and will freeze it until I decide what to do, probably more wine. Tonight I will try a BBP daiquiri - I think this will please me one way or the other. It would be good to find a winning way to use this great fruit. Bill.

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    1. Hi Bill,
      if the daiquiri worked please send the recipe! Here's something yummy you can do with frozen BBPs - make instant icecream. Put 300ml of cold cream, 1-2 tbsp of icing sugar and 300-400g of frozen peach (broken into raspberry-sized chunks) into a food processor and whizz briefly until it turns into a soft icecream. Eat immediately.
      I think you will find that roasting the peaches to make chutney, as per my recipe (link above) gets round the watery problem.
      Christine

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    2. The best and only to eat this unusual peach is wait until it is truly ripe, score through and twist to remove the pip then peel off the skin. Bit messy but well worth the effort. When you have two clean halves you can either poach in water and sugar (as sweet as you like) or preserve in jars. I have found both ways the best! Excellent over icecream or in your breakfast cereal.

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  3. I have been trying to find out what kinda peaches those are that we had on our tree in the garden...we only moved in 1/2 year ago...So happy somebody posted a comment on our facebook http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150639292244142&set=a.193107624141.128806.141022184141&type=1&theater&notif_t=photo_comment
    I made a delishes cake with them and the rest I put in the freezer for future delights ;)
    Thank you for your post!

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  4. I live in Western Oregon. We have wet springs. peach leaf curl is very common here. I keep reading how resistant Blackboy Peach's are to peach leaf curl and also how they grow true from seed. I would love to plant some BBP's but none of the fruit tree nuseries grow them here. I would gladly pay someone for the pits and shipping costs.
    Please email me killforfood1@gmail.com
    Don't let the email address sacre you. It just means that I love to hunt Deer and Elk and eat every yummy bite:)
    I will also check back here if someone just wishes to reply.

    Thanks, Joel.

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  5. I've been hoping to get some black boy peach seeds for myself. Would you happen to have any seeds to send my way? That would be beyond awesome. Please let me know!

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  6. I really thought my peach tree had something wrong with it...lol...rest my peach trees have pretty peaches on them and one has black peaches on it and we just throw all the peaches away every year....so now that I seen this I think I might just go out and try one when they are ready and hopefully I will enjoy them. When we bought this place the tree was already here....this really helps out!!!

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  7. We inhereted a BBP when we moved here 6 months ago but it is almost decimated with leaf curl so it is definately not resistant, it is very sick! We had no idea what the fruit trees were until they started to blossum and now know that we have 2 more peach trees (but don't know what variety); they are relatively desease free!

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    1. Hi Anonymous for the sick peach tree feed it with bags of sheep poo and get a good liquied plant food that can boot the trees immune system pluss give it a good feed of fruit tree fertilizer also use sulphate of potash then three months later a dressing of sulphate of ammonia and feed repeat the end of summer and spring and you will turn this trees life around and watch the curly leaf stop in its tracts also pick off all the curly leaf you can reach and burn or put in council rubbish. With this tree feed program you will realize you will not need to spray a thing a bug hates a healthy tree. all the best..ps dont be to heavy handed on applying the fertilizer a kind amount often will get the best results as a heavy dose of fertilizer can make the ground toxic so you can ruin your own hard works result...the golden rule is a little and on a seasional program.

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    2. The highlight of a pretty grotty flat in Wellington 20 years ago, was a prolific blackboy peach in the back yard. We bottled them (water bath method) and they were absolutely divine. Just found some at the Victoria Street market this morning and have bottled 10 jars.

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  8. We have three peach trees, two are BBP and one is a regular. The regular peach dropped all its fruit and got leaf curl late last year whereas the two BBP trees are very young but have 6-12 fruit on each and look really healthy

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    1. Does anyone have blackboy peach seeds

      Email

      zoro93010@rogers.com

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    2. I'm in Tasmania and have quite a few Blackboy Peach seeds if anyone would like them. I'm getting ready to plant some in potting mix and leave them in the hothouse to see if they will sprout by spring. A friend of mine has the only tree I know of here and it was loaded this year so I've saved lots of seeds after stewing the fruit.

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    3. Hi Anonymous I have been trying to get this black boy peach and what a tough time I have been having trying to find the tree please can I have some of your seeds I will be delighted if you could email me at sam.smith13@yahoo.com.au
      I am so pleased for finding your offer. Regards Sam.

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    4. Hi There in Tassie I would be very happy to recieve some of your blackboy peach seeds please contact me at sam.smith13@yahoo.com.au
      truth is I would be over the moon to get some Sam

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    5. If you put some seeds up on Ebay I know I would like some and i'm sure there are many like me that would buy some through Ebay.

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    6. Hi there in Tassie, I am in also in Tassie also and would love some of these peach tree seeds, my email is westcaptain@yahoo.com.au, Thanks & here's hoping K

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  9. I own living legecies heritage farm and i would like to buy some of these seeds and see if ohio state university can determine if this peach is the same or related to the cherokee/Indian blood peach. You will also find that some georgia black peach seeds were sent to thomas jefferson and planted at his farm montecello. I do not think these are strickly a new zealand thing as these red flesh trees were being propogated by the first nations people in america when the settlers arived. many try to link them to the french peaches as they claim the spanish brought them on their first expedition but there are no red flesh peaches in spain or portugal. Most all things the first nations people were destroyed the vast orchards of the blood peaches were burnt at the onset of "the trail of tears". a lady in iowa sells a white blood peach at about 1.00 per seed plus shipping. I would be willing to buy 20 of your seeds at that price if your willing. My number is 740-988-6810.

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  10. One can make absolutely delicious wine from Black boy Peaches.

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  11. I live in Pukekohe, south of Auckland and our local nursery, Farrells, has BBP trees for sale - just bought one $25. Feel sure other NZ nurseries have them too. Can't wait for my first fruit ..

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  12. hi, I have received some BBP stones but I'm unsure what to do to grow them. Do I just put them in compost in small pots and put in my conservatory? Do I do plant them in a special way (I've never grown anything from pip before)? Also I am taking them back to London where Winters are colder than here so I guess for the first year (it is obviously now Summer) I will keep them in the green house and plant outside next year.

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  13. Gardeners' Question Time on BBC Radio 4 just featured an item on this fruit, so you can look forward to masses more inquiries about how to obtain seeds for it from the other side of the world. Anyone keen to start an eco mail-order business to help us grow your wonderful peaches in our equivalent but northern latitudes?

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  14. I have been trying to obtain some Black Boy peach seeds (pits) for several years. I also have wondered how they compare with the so called Indian Blood peach. In some pictures the "Black Boy" peaches look as if they are free stones unlike the blood peach varieties I have seen. The peach called Indian Free is not usually so red. I would like to pay to have some Black Boy pits sent to me. Thank you, Brian

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  15. Hi there, I've just been given some BBP seedlings and am wondering if they will grow here as I live in Southland NZ. Does anyone know if they can handle the cooler climate?

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    1. They can grow in Hanmer Springs. They are ripe now - a very average summer with late frosts that destroyed apple, plum and pear.

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    2. Yes they will grow in Southland. We grow them in Otago. They are a brilliant tree.

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    3. I live in Mangaroa Valley, Upper Hutt, North of Wellington and have got a Black Boy Peach tree and had fruit on it last season. We have heavy frosts sometimes days in a row in the minus figures.

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  16. Hi I have a dwarf black boy peach which has grown beautifully and never has curly leaf but though it has a lot of blossoms every spring it never has any fruit. Does any ideas what the problem would be ?

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  17. They are fine in Christchurch and we have very hard frosts here on and off for months in the winters. So why not give them a try. The fruit ripen in Feb here so probably don't require a very long growing period.

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  18. Hi there everyone. I have just bought a black boy tree in the recent months, just starting to get little peaches growing on it however ii am starting to find holes in my leaves.. Is it caterpillars or birds and should I be doing anything to help the tree? I live in South Christchurch if that helps.

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  19. Hi, I stumbled across this as I was searching 'black peach'. I'm a Kiwi in the UK and I would love to get a pi or two when I am next home (April-May). The reason I was searching 'Black Peach' is that among the Tradesant watercolour drawings of fruit in Oxford (done in the the 1620s-30s is one of a Black Peach and it looks a bit like your Black Boy peach: if that is the case, you probably have an extraordinarily rare old cultivar that is no longer known in England but that was brought out to NZ in the nineteenth century. As someone who is in the process of creating a project called The Ancient Orachard in the UK (with only pre-1700 varieties), I would very much like to know more about this. Cheers, Mark

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  20. Hi, I stumbled across this while searching for 'Black Peach' on google. There is a watercolour of a 'Black Peach' from the 1620s-30s in the Tradescant collection in Oxford, which has now been published in The Tradescant Orchard. There is an image here and the drawing describes it as 'red all within' which would also seem to confirm that your Black Boy is the Tradescant peach. The image is here:

    http://bodley30.bodley.ox.ac.uk:8180/luna/servlet/detail/ODLodl~1~1~30850~127535:Tradescant-s-Orchard--

    If this is your peach, I would be seriously interested to know and to acquire some peach stones when I am back home in Wellington in April-May as I'm not sure I can take a whole plant back to the UK.. As far as I am aware, the cultivar is no longer known in the UK and must have been brought out to NZ in the nineteenth century.

    I am currently creating a project here called The Ancient Orchard that only has pre-1700 cultivars, and at the moment I will be importing all peach cultivars from France. Cheers, Mark

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  21. My neighbours BBP tree usually is a prolific fruit bearer and our side of the fence provided many goodies. The last two years it got stangled by Elderberry. This year the fruit, what little there was, has gone white !!! Very weird. Has anyone else had this happen or know why ?

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  22. We grow a very similar fruit here in Norther California called a ( Indian)Blood
    Peach. we make lots of yummy things with it and our kids eat it by the bucket load even with the skins. we were told it was native up here. I have tons of seed. it grows true, is hardy, and sometimes gets a little leaf curl, but not much.

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  23. Can Black Boy peaches be grown from cuttings??

    Jan - Nelson

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  24. I had them in Diamond Harbour... they were nothing short of amazing.... beautiful preserves on an open shelf for everyone to see and be envious!!! Ihave just been given a baby tree here in Lower Hutt, so I was happy to see Anonymous' comment a year ago from Mangaroa.... they seem to be pretty tolerant. I wonder if those Ohio-ans found out if our BBP are related to the Indian/Cherokee blood peach.... and.. Christine.. its awesome to bump into your blog.... I know of you through studies at Canterbury Uni Soc/Pols department... and to know you are in my beloved Banks Peninsula... what an awesome place to live!!!! I so so miss it! From Victoria

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